I've heard some guys say "I'm just a Bottom" if i was only a bottom, I'd like to think I'd say "I'm a great Bottom" rather than I'm just a bottom.
To me a Bolttom is something special, it's more than just being totally passive.
I have come to realise that some guys who claim to be bottoms, are in fact fat lazy arses, and in many cases sling lizzards.
But I'm delighted to say that I have played with some of the greatest bottoms in the world and have had experiences that you might only expect to discover once or twice in a life time yet i've have more of these than I can count on my fingers and toes. ( and I can count to 21 when I'm naked).
Being versatile is my ideal play partner as I believe tops become better tops, when they have bottomed and bottoms become better bottoms when they have topped. But it is really about head space. If a guys heart isn't in topping and is only doing it out of a sense of obligation, why would you want it, you'd get more pleasure from sitting on your favourite toy.
Then there are some guys who say their total Tops, but actually have no understanding of what they are doing, they just use their hand in place of their cock amnd think they are doing a good thing.
My number one rule is select your play partners carefully, as a bottom you are putting your life in their hands, and as a top you could unconsciously be doing real damage up there, you only have to talk to some one who works in an emergency ward to know of the disasters that happen.
Trust, Trust and Trust, that's why the late Bert Herrmann' book was called "TRUST" ther hand Book.
Cheers David.
I had the slave idea for a long time, as far as "The Boots" in Antwerp was founded in Antwerp, evoluating to what it now is. Today, I am much older. Around the years 1998, I was more called a bottom when I became a skinhead and made acquaintance with Metal (Mike), a well-educated skinhead but extremely rough, called by some dangerous; He died young March 28, 2009 after a short but painful illness. In 1998, with him as top started the fisting, and i was being fisted by him and others in his absence as he was from London, and only was now and again in Antwerp. I also met him in Amsterdam, as it was also his place. I was fisted regularly mostly up to the elbow. When I have no top, I fist myself with various sizes of dildo's in my possession. I am using poppers generally, but the latter years a couple Jagermeister/Red Bull do fine. I agree with the requirements of a bottom. Like everything it needs to be refreshed at times.
i have topped a couple of guys. ok more than a couple. point is, i prefer bottom, and provide a very erotic experience for my tops. i am very verbal and praise the top when is pushing all the right buttons, but guide and praise for less experienced tops. when i have a top that is experienced, i let go of all my inhibitions and fall into the moment, moaning, writhing on the fist and producing a lot of cunt juice. when done, i am saturated with sweat and my cunt is wide open and sloppy wet. i love being on bottom, because even though i will top, i dont think either of us has as much satisfaction from the experience, since most bottoms dont get as deep into the experience as i do. at least the bottoms ive topped dont, and i am very seductive with my bottoms and attentive to their responses to my movements inside their cunt.
Hi Rob
Great to get a message from you.
You sound like my kind of guy.
Like you I've trained lots of guys, and I understand the frustration of not many wanting to return the favour, but really if their heart isn't in it, it's not worth having.
I ran Megafist at Club80 for just on 10 years, but I think my hands gained their sensitivity and tactility of being a sports masseur for NRL clubs for 12 years.
While my hands are on the big size, they can do migacil things that most smaller hands can't do.
So it would really please me to explore your arse and take you to that wonderful place and give you that experience you have given so many other guys.
I don't live in melbourne any more, but too far away and I often get to the City for weekends here and there.
Cheers David 0473951736
Will TOP to get TOPPED! Started as a bottom, and the intensity there is amazing...one fist, two, punching, sucking OUT fast!
Still...having a fist INSIDE a guy and watching and feeling his reaction brings a whole new series of pleasures.
Then, a nice cum cocktail to finish off the day.
Jim
Hi Jim
I think you have discovered the wonderful thing that a bottom become a better bottom when he has topped and a Top becomes a better Top when he has bottomed.
As you said the intensity was amazing for you as a bottom, and who wouldn';t want other to be able to share that truly magical experience.
Good on you for not just remaining as a slwefish sling lizard but taking the wholeistic approach. Truley what we give out we get back ten fold.
Let me know if ever your travels bring you my way ;-)
David
I originally was a top only with a preference for young guys although I was on the edge of becoming a senior. For several years now I have gone from a vers top to a vers bottom. I really love my ass played with and prefer fingers and hands to a thick cock. But although I have tried, getting a tops hand entirely in me has been impossible. The closest I came was in Palm Springs this past July at an event at CCBC. As I recall only one guy really tried, the others just fingering me. The one guy I know from L.A. and have played many times without success but this time we almost made it. Between my toys which includes a traffic cone and some medicinal m.j. cream plus medicinal m.j. candy and I believe some over the counter allergy pills I was in heaven as he was pushing his hand into me. Then the pain hit and we had to stop. The next day I was really feeling like shit from the head cold or what I ever I had so we did not play.
Shortly after that I first had diarrhea then it turned into constapation. Then my friend suggested cole slaw and it seemed to work usually but not always and accidents happened. I went thru a procedure and they could not find any problems except irritation. During my down time I did not play at all. Now I'm back but am having a hard time opening up again. In fact it seems more difficult than before.
I really want a hand up my ass. I love the feeling just trying until of course there is to much pain. There is only one venue in Los Angeles I can find where fisters play regularly but that seems to be drying up as well. I'm not into bars so meeting some there is not a option. Everyday I'm on ASS PIG and Recon looking for someone with small hands that has experience. They usually peter out.